#Boundless game turn on cheats full
Like a Swashbuckler going at full tilt with finishers each turn doesn't even beat a Fighter in terms of DPR. The issue is that what they do special doesn't actually match up that well with what a Fighter just does. In return, his 'get all the reactions' feat is super generic, but also super versatile.īut yeah, sure, people having to pay a price to get something is somehow not levelling the playing field. But he doesn't get anything super special like Swashbuckler and Gunslinger do. But in return for getting things that emphasise their focus, they pay in versatility. Seriously? The whole point is that Swashbucklers and Gunslingers alike get things in exchange for their narrower focus that other classes don't get. Which is supposed to be played on a level playing field.Kind of undermining your own point here. Better learn to appreciate all the damn things that you have that Fighter doesn't get. So yeah, Fighter gets nice things and he's not required to share his toys.
Which is supposed to be played on a level playing field. Dude, you get to rewrite reality, and you b!~#+ about being 3 points behind people who don't get to break the laws of physics? Get real.īut it's never enough, is it? No matter how much you have, it must always be more. Same with full casters whining about not getting past Expert in weapon skills. 'Why can't I have Legendary weapon skills? Because you already get Rage, Hunt Prey and Hunter'S Edge, Sneak Attack and more skills then anybody else except Investigator, and that bugger gets his own set of unique abilities. Oh and yeah, it cuts both ways: If giving Swashbucklers and Gunslingers the Fighter variant doesn't break the game, not giving them the Fighter variant doesn't break it either. Because what 'voideternal' already said.īut just copy/pasting class feats instead of giving each class its own identity? That's just lazy. But you don't get to eat your cake and have it.īreak it? No. If you have a problem with that, you can make viable Swashbucklers and gun users with the Fighter class too. So yes, their capstone abilities are focused. They come with a very keen focus one particular fighting style, and their feat selection emphasises that. The generic 'fighting man class' that offers feats for all combat styles, the class that isn't nailed down to one particular fighting style.īut Swashbucklers and Gunslingers are. So then, why is a Fighter's 'get all the reactions' feat so free-form compared to a Swashbuckler's or Gunslinger's?īecause they are Fighters. People tend to make such a fuss about Fighter getting Legendary in weapons when nobody else does, but totally 'forget' to mention that that is basically all Fighters have going for them as their innate damage boost. And things other classes can't simply steal from them. Except, maybe, I dunno, because every class in PF 2 has its own, mostly unique, set of class feats. _benno wrote: This difference feels totally unnecessary to me. This difference feels totally unnecessary to me. The Gunslinger on the other hand has very few reactions to choose from (and there are reactions like Hit the dirt! that need a second feat to be decent(otherwise it's Nimble roll + leap which might trigger an attack of opportunity in turn but you drop prone!) and since you are prone after it you can't use the reaction again before you stand up.).
The Swashbuckler although restricted to the two types of reactions is because there are many good feats that support the reactions not too far off. And on top of that you need to add all the reactions that you can possibly gain through archetypes. Also the class itself comes with many good reactions like shield block, attack of opportunity and dueling riposte(legendary attack proficiency and possibly wielding two handed weapons make the last two even better). The fighter has no restrictions and therefor is by far the most versatile. Slinger's Reflexes(Gunslinger): just Gunslinger ReactionsĪlthough they are all level 20 class feats there power is completely different. Inexhaustible Countermoves(Swashbuckler): just Attack of Opportunity or Opportune Riposte There are multiple feats that grant a reaction on each enemy's turn.īoundless Reprisals(Fighter): no restriction on the type of reaction at all
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